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This is the longest post ever recorded on AirChat. I was asking how long we could go before we got cut off and nobody knew. And someone told me to sacrifice myself for science. So here we go. I will continue talking until I am cut off or until I accidentally let go of the button. I actually started doing this, like, 10 minutes ago. And I got a low battery notification on my phone, and it stopped me. And all those beautiful words and beautiful thoughts that I was stringing together are completely lost like tears in the rain in a manner of speaking. So I'm just gonna keep going. I'm gonna just keep talking. I have no idea what I'm gonna say, but that's kind of like what they do in the congress. Right? Like, filibusters, they just talk and read the dictionary, and that's why we have such an amazing government. So I will keep talking, and you'll keep listening because you don't have anything better to do for apparently. No offense. But, so but, yeah, it's it's okay. Right? I mean, this is the this is how science progresses. Science doesn't progress by success. It progresses by failure. It progresses by people trying things and dying. It progresses by people falling over and then other people watching them and being like, oh, there's a rock there, I'm not gonna trip on that. You know the Wright brothers, right? The Wright brothers flew the airplane. We all we we honor them, they've got their iconic money, whatever. But there was 100, dozens, whatever, people before them who taped, you know, feathers to their arms, they made cardboard airplanes, they jumped off cliffs, and they died. A lot of these guys died. And the people that came after them, like the Wright brothers, saw what they did wrong, modified, you know, their their inventions just a little bit, and got it right to the point where it actually worked. And I feel like that kind of, you know, martyr, right? I will probably not find or record the longest post in air chat history. It's quite possible. I will fail. But I will I will I will get as close as I can, and I will add information to the next generation of pioneers, And maybe they will find what the time limit is. And that that makes me feel not fulfilled, but but hopeful, but optimistic. I feel like I'm part of a larger process that will carry on even after my voice fails, even after I collapse from exhaustion, even after my thumb starts bleeding because I'm pressing it into my phone so hard. Other people will take what little findings I I'm able to offer, and they will expand upon it. And that is amazing. Right? So here we are, like, we're just trying stuff, we're failing, and other people are building on top of that. So and like you, like why the heck are you listening to this? Most people, 95% of people probably saw the first 2 or 3 sentences, maybe gave the post a like, and kept scrolling. But you, you are still here, and that makes me feel really good. Wow. Oh, my voice, I I am feeling getting I'm tight in my chest. My voice is getting hoarse. This is this is not looking good, guys. Like, I I have not seen any indication that my torture is going to end anytime soon. There has been no visual feedback. There's been no audio feedback. My little avatar is still doing the little colorful rainbow blob thing, which means it is recording. I have my phone plugged in now, so I'm not going to be saved by some sort of low battery notification. And, I guess a phone call. If someone called me right now, that would probably interrupt it. But otherwise, I just have to keep talking. I'm gonna have to find a way. I oh, I need to talk more in my chest or something. Oh my gosh. I this is not a woah. Oh, okay. Oh, that's better. Yeah. I just gotta I just gotta relax. Gotta relax the vocal cords. Not and not take it too seriously. There's this is a marathon. Right? I saw I saw the Boston Marathon guy, the winner, you know, yesterday or whenever that was, and, you know, oh my god, like, at the end, he was he was going so fast, but he was also relaxed. You can just tell how relaxed his body was, his posture, it's just he was just at ease. And that's what enabled him to maintain that pace for so long. Right? Plus amazing genetics and training. So that's kinda like me. I am a Boston marathon winner or at least a top ten finisher because I am I'm in it for the long haul. I'm just gonna keep talking and talking and talking until the app cuts me off. Right? Or until I just literally, physically cannot continue. Now there is a question. Right? There's a question of of sanity. When people do things like this, other people from the outside will often dismiss them as insane. But I would argue that the only sane people are the ones who are actually in the arena doing things. Like like, man, I'm in the arena. That's that's a good quote. I could I could probably expand on that. I could probably come up with a whole speech about how the critic is is not not the person you should be respecting. The critic is the one, like, the eloquent critic. The eloquent critic is what everyone listens to. But the man, the dude, the dude in the arena, that's that's the guy you should be following. That's the guy you should be admiring. And that's what I am. I'm basically, like, the man in the arena. So I I I just can't believe how amazing that is. Like, isn't that so cool? Like, wow. Wow. That I am I am the man in the arena. So anyways, shout out to Theodore Roosevelt for, describing me so well. What a chat. But okay. Oh, I know what I could do. I don't have any, like, books in front of me, but I do have I do know quite a bit of poetry. I could recite some poetry. That might that would probably be a a way to keep talking because, like, my mind is fried. Like, I have absolutely nothing to say anymore. This is this is crazy. Like, it's just like it's like when you, you know, have the 24 hour stomach flu and you just, like, you barf it all up in the toilet, and then, you know, you feel sick, and then a a few hours later, like, you barf some more, and then a few hours later, you you barf again. And then at that point, like, you haven't drank or eaten anything for hours, and it's just, like, a little bit coming up. Just like a little bit, you know, and it's, like, just gone. And it like, you're still, like, just dry heaving. Like, that's basically where I'm at. Like, my mind had a bunch of things to say. My mind had a bunch of words going on that it knew, that it was, like, constipated, wanted to get out. It's out now. It's it's gone. Like, I are I it's all gone, dude. Like, I don't know what to there's nothing left. I'm dry heaving. So we're just gonna start off with a a little, poem by j r r Tolkien. It's an Elvish, so you're not gonna understand a fucking word of what I say. But it's really beautiful. It's a beautiful poem, and maybe you'll enjoy it. It's called Namari. It's what Galadriel said to the the people, like, the the dudes when they were leaving, from Mordor. And it goes like this. I, Lorielanta Lassi Surinin, inyarinotameve Rama Alderon. Inyarve linti yorlevaniar meoromarodi lissy mirovorova. And Dunne pelovado telemanu. Luinias Okay. So that's in English, it goes something like this. Like gold fall the leaves in the wind, long years numberless as the wings of trees. The long years have passed like swift drafts of sweet mead in lofty halls beyond the west, beneath the blue vaults of Varda, wherein the stars tremble at the voice of her song, holy and queenly. Who now shall refill the cup for me? For now Varda, the queen of the stars, for mount Everwhite, has uplifted her hands like clouds, and all paths are drowned deep in shadow. And out of the gray country darkness lies on the foaming waves between us, and mist covers the jewels of calicuria forever, now lost. Lost to those of the east is Valimar. Farewell. Maybe thou shalt find Valomar. Maybe even thou shalt find it. Farewell. Whew. Okay. That was nice. That that gave my my brain a little time to work, to to generate some more more words. It's actually crazy how much you can think. Like, when you have something memorized that well, like, your mind can keep thinking while you're just, like, vomiting out the words, solid. So, yeah, one thing that came to me is, like, I am very skeptical that the AI is actually going to be able to transcribe, like, my like, once I let go of the button, it is probably going to crash, which is the most unsatisfying conclusion. Like, that means that there's some invisible line that I'm going to cross or have already crossed in which it will overwhelm the app. And I'm gonna let go, and nothing's gonna happen. That is so disappointing. And I'm just terrified that that has already happened. Like, I've already crossed the line. And I could keep going for, like, 10 hours, like, 3 days. Who knows what? And it's it's it's not gonna do anything. So that that's kind of in the back of my mind now. Like, that that's just a that's like a little devil there, like, just whispering evil evil thoughts of just give up. Just it it's hopeless. It's not you you the app is not gonna tell you anything. You've already been talking 10 minutes. That's way too long. Just give up. Give up now. Just go, you know, get us make a sandwich, get a drink. There's absolutely no reason to keep going. And that is why we must say, not today, Satan. Say it with me. Not today, Satan. There we go. Yeah. We just whenever you get that little voice in your mind, you gotta just smack it on the head and stick it in the box just like that song says. Right? If I had a little black box to put my Satan in, I take him out and zapack his head, and put him back again. There's a reason that we teach children songs like that. Has nothing to do with religion. Right? It has all it's it's all about science. It's all about science and the progression towards knowledge, which is what I'm doing. I am sacrificing my entire afternoon for you, for science, for the truth. And that is why, like, songs that teach children to smack the fuck out of the devil are actually it's it's basically like like, neurobiology. Right? It's almost like it's like a it's like physics, and, I I think that should be taught in our schools. I think I think I think oh, now now I'm getting into politics. I think I think, probably, exorcism should be taught in schools. I think probably, voodoo. I mean, the traditional Haitian voodoo should be taught in schools. I think I think, astrology is basically already taught in schools. I mean, it's it's it's fake. I mean, it's it's not because it's true. I mean, most things taught in school are probably not true anyways. So, it's it's more about just the just the overall, you know, ideal of science. Right? Like, I think that's that's what we're getting at. I mean, voodoo is is basically just another name for, you know, chemistry or something. Right? I have no idea what I'm saying anymore. Like, these words are literally, like, being generated by my unconscious. I have my conscious mind is off in a quiet, happy, sunny place where there's no talking. And it's just my id, basically, just vomiting now, just just spewing stuff, which means it's probably time for another poem. So this is a famous poem. One of my favorite renditions of it is by Morgan Freeman. When he was on a podcast, he he recited from memory, which I will do as well. He did get a few of the the words wrong though, which, you know, you can't blame him because, you know, he's a 80 year old man, and he's been 80 years old for a long time. So my, my version is this. Oh, wait. How oh, I was gonna do the wrong wrong poem. It's called Invictus, and it says, out of the night that covers me, black as the pit from pole to pole, I thank whatever gods may be for my unconquerable soul. In the fell clutch of circumstance, I have not winced nor cried aloud. Under the bludgeonings of chance, my head is bloody, but unbowed. Beyond this place of wrath and tears looms but the horror of the shade. And yet, the menace of the years finds and shall find me unafraid. It matters not how straight the gate, how charged with punishments the scroll. I am the master of my fate. I am the captain of my soul. Oh, that's so good. So good. Now I have I have, recited that to people, and they, they take some offense at the last line. The whole idea of being a captain of your of your soul, master of your fate. I think people that do a lot of meditation or are kind of have a more mystical spiritual bent end up feeling like they are more, not necessarily, like, less agent. Well, yeah, I I guess, yeah, with less free will in a certain sense. Like like, more of, like, they're they're the universe just, like, acting, which I don't know. I mean, that's a whole another philosophical conundrum that I don't even wanna think about right now. Because my brain is already hurting and bleeding, so we're not gonna do that. Another thing I just realized, the little demon on the back of my shoulder is telling me, I don't even have to be talking this whole time. I could just be, using my thumb. Right? Just just recording, like, hours of of empty, silence. Now that would not test the algorithm's ability to transcribe the text. So I guess I could have a movie playing or, like, a podcast and just hold hold my thumb on it. I could probably even find a way of doing it that's not I I could, like, tape my thumb to it maybe. Would that work? Would a hot dog work? Does a hot dog register as a as a finger on a phone? I don't know. But that's that's not you know? That wouldn't be fair to you. Right? I mean, like, here you are. You're still listening to me. Like, why are you listening to me? It's been 15 minutes, and you're still here. If I had been playing some random podcast or some music, like, you wouldn't be here. Right? Like, your sick voyeuristic need to, like, hear me suffer, like, to hear my voice just, like, start breaking and cracking, Like, that's why I'm doing it. I'm doing it for you. I'm I'm doing it to make you happy because you deserve it. You you deserve to be happy. So there you go. So I will keep talking, and, let's let's bring out another, another poem. This one is going to be, actually, let's let's turn off the English part of my brain and do some old Norse. And that's a death song. So, like, that's the Vikings had this tradition that when they were dying, they would sing, like, the song. Usually, I I don't know if, like, there was, like, a bunch of them where it's, like, each person had their own, but but that's what they would do. Like, they would they would have their own death song, and this was sang or recited by this guy called Thor here something, but before he was executed. And it basically means, you must climb upon the keel, the ocean spray is cold, keep your spirit hardened, Here your life will end. Bald man, don't frown though the rain falls upon you. You were loved by women. One time must each man die. So I always thought that was pretty cool. That's a it's a pretty, it's very viking. Very viking. And that's the thing too, you know, like, one time must each man die, you know, every man must die one day. Like, that it's that's why, like, Brian Johnson. Right? Like, I'm good for him. Like, he's he is doing science. Right? He is sacrificing his his life. Like, he's sleeping, like, 50 hours a day, to try to live forever. He's not going to live forever. He's gonna die. He's gonna age. But he but he's trying. Right? He's trying. He's doing these crazy experiments on himself and will learn a lot. So thank you, Brian Johnson. But for me, personally, like, I know I'm gonna die. Trying not to die is a stupid game, like, you're gonna lose, like, and you're gonna you're gonna end your life losing. So I think in in most cultures, especially cultures where people often died violent deaths, they found a way to to make death not a failure. Now certain types of death would be failures. Right? Like, if a Viking hero or just a warrior died of old age, like, that was considered kind of shameful. Right? Like, you're not gonna enter Valhalla. But, like, Thor here, the guy that, you know, did the death song, he was executed. Right? Like, he he was he fought bravely. He was, you know, he was a warrior, and he was able to say this, you know, bad ass death song as he was killed. And you gotta you gotta respect that, right? Like that's not a failure, like he good for him, like that's a good death. Nobody has good deaths anymore. No one actually dies well. Even you get cancer and, you know, you're fighting the cancer, and then, you know, they say, oh, he so and so lost his fight to cancer. So no. I mean, like, I don't That's not a good death. Right? Like, just, you know, the only success criteria is not dying. I mean, I think that was invented by, like, the, you know, industrial medical complex. That's just, like, it's selling us on this idea that we can live forever. If we just get the right surgeries or that, you know, here's a new procedure, do this, here's a new drug, try that, And it's they're they're wrong. They're absolutely wrong. Like, you will die. Like, I mean, it's it's possible. Eventually, we'll figure out how not to die. I'm skeptical, but it's like, you know, some 9 year old woman, like, dies of the of heart disease or something. Right? It's like, no. I mean, if she hadn't died of heart disease, she had, like, 5 or 6 other things going wrong too. Her kidneys were failing. Her, you know, brain had a had a aneur it was about having an aneurysm. Like, there are so many things, like, when you're getting old that will eventually kill you. So Trying Not to Die, I think, in my opinion, is a silly kind of game and not worth playing. Like, just don't play it. Find it find a different game. How how do you die with honor? Right? I mean, that you see this in Japan. Right? Seppuku. Like, I I I'm glad I don't live in a culture that, you know, where people kill themselves if they get fired from a job. But I respect it. Like, I I understand I understand it. Like like in Last Samurai. Right? I mean, that scene where he's he's been gunned down by the machine guns and, you know, Tom Cruise is, like, helping him, like, kill himself, and he's looking at the cherry blossoms and there's and he he says, oh, they're all perfect. And it's it's beautiful. Alright? I mean, that's a good death. And we just we don't we don't have a lot of that anymore. We don't have a lot of good deaths. It's basically just in, like, you know, fantasy stories or war stories, and I don't know. So that that's why I don't like, people make fun of, like, you know, like, failed videos or, like, you know, there's a whole, like, what is it? Darwin Awards or something. Like, you know, where people die really stupid ways. Like, I never make fun of those people. Even the people that aren't intentionally even the people that aren't intentionally, like, you know, trying to, like, figure out some new knowledge or whatever. Even the people that are just being stupid and risky, they give us knowledge. They teach us a lot. Like like, I remember reading some, some book about, you know, radium water or something. Like, back, you know, a 100 years ago, people thought, you know, radioactivity was this amazing new thing, gives you superpowers. So, like, some rich dude from San Francisco was, like, buying all this radium water and drinking it every day as a as a tonic, and his jaw fell off one day. Like, it just completely destroyed his bones, and his lower jaw fell off and he died eventually. And everyone in the comments were just, like, you know, roasting him, making fun of him. And I was like, oh my god. No. No. Come on. This guy, if if not a hero intentionally, like, he wasn't trying to do something heroic. Right? But by doing something new, he gave us knowledge. He saved a 1000000 people from having their jaws fall off. And you just think about like every poisonous plant, every, you know, everything that humans have learned all the way back to hunter and gatherers, it came from people who tried some new shit and died. Like, we gotta remember these people, guys. Like, we don't know their names, but, like, we're alive because of them. There were we would not it's amazing. It's amazing what what peep what crazy humans do and and discover. So anyways, my, my brain is once again, running out of things to say. So I will recite the longest poem I know, which is also by JRR Tolkien, and it's about the it's kind of like the origin creation story of the dwarves in lord of the rings. So they believe that their oldest ancestor was a guy named Durin, and, that's where the entire race of dwarves descends from. So this is his story. And the elves has a messianic, resurrection aspect to it as well. The world was young, the mountains green. No stain yet on the moon was seen. No names were laid on stream or stone when Durin woke and walked alone. He named the nameless hills and dells. He drank from yet untasted wells. He stooped and looked in mirror, mirror, and saw a crown of stars appear, as gems upon a silver thread, above the shadow of his head. The world was fair, the mountains tall, in elder days, before the fall, of mighty kings in Nargothrond and Gondolin, who now beyond the western seas have passed away. The world was fair, endurance day. A king he was on carven throne, in many pillared halls of stone, with golden roof and silver floor and runes of power upon the door, the light of sun and star and moon and shining lamps of crystal hewn undimmed by cloud or shade of night. There shone forever fair and bright. Their hammer on the anvil smote, their chisel clove engraver wrote, their forged was blade and bound was hilt, the delver mind, the mason built, their burl pearl and opal pale, and metal wrought like fish's mail, buckler and corselet, axe and sword, and shining spears were laid and hoored. Unwearied then were Durran's folk. Beneath the mountains music woke. The harpers harped, the minstrel sang, and at the gates the trumpets rang. The world is gray. The mountains old. The forge's fire is ashen cold. No harp is rung. No hammer falls. The darkness dwells in Durin's halls. The shadow lies upon his tomb in Moria in Khazad Dum. But still the sunken stars appear in dark and windless mirror, mirror. There lies his crown in waters deep till Durin wakes again from sleep. Wow. So good. So good. Good job, Tolkien. I think Tolkien just wrote Lord of the Rings because he liked poetry. Like, he was just a, you know, poetry language nerd and just, like, he he would try over sending poetry to people and no one would listen to him. So he just wrote an entire awesome, you know, trilogy and stuck a bunch of poetry in there. So to make people have to read his poetry. That's my guess. But it's really good stuff. Like, he, he he knew what he was doing. Oh my gosh. So 26 minutes. I've been doing it. It is still updating. So, like, now I've been doing it for 27 minutes. But, in terms of the character limit, like, this is a lot of characters going into here. Like, I really, I'm really skeptical that they're gonna be able to transcribe this. Now it's possible that it won't crash. Like, even if it doesn't transcribe it, it's possible the audio will still be uploaded. That may be disconnected. It all depends how they're doing their code on the on the, back end. So there's still hope. But, I might end up stopping at, like, 30 minutes, partly because my my thumb my my thumb is in incredible pain right now. Just just like radiating pain out of my the tip of my thumb in all the way down into, like, my wrist. So that sucks. I think, mister Beast did a challenge or, like, one of his contests where he did, like, you had to keep your hand on your phone, like, for, oh, yeah. Wasn't that that was, like, an app or something. Right? So I think there's, like, millions of people around the world, and they had to keep their phone on their on the on the button or the their finger on the button. And the last person to, like, let go, like, got a $1,000,000 or something. And they did it for a long time. Like, it was, like I think it was, like, days. So I suppose I don't, I I shouldn't let that stop me, but, but I'm I'm just not a not a world class thumb athlete. If I if I knew I was gonna be doing this, I would have started training a long time ago. So I don't know. But it's nice that you're still here. You're still listening, or reading. Maybe you're scrolling through reading. That's okay too. Like, I I forgive you. I I forgive you for not listening to the whole thing. Like, we we can read a lot faster than we can listen. But thank you for thank you for being here in spirit, even if if not an ear an eye, if not ear. Even if I'm not in your auditory, the auditory part of your brain, even if I'm just in your visual cortex right now, like, I'm glad to be in your visual cortex. Like, your visual cortex is I I really like what you've done with the place. Like, it's very comfortable. It's very hospitable. It's very welcoming. So so thank you. Your brain is is chill. Thank you for putting me inside your head. You know, a lot of times people don't realize, like, everything you experience is inside your head. Like, you've never experienced, like, the outside world. The the easiest way to prove this is, like, is dreams. Right? Like, when you have a dream, like, that's just your mind basically has the ability to create what you consider the outside world. And for the most part, it, it uses some information coming in from the outside to create that, that little virtual world. But, like, when you're dreaming, it just goes, you know, fuck wild bananas. Like, it just does whatever it wants, and it just it looks as real as your waking experience. So a a great, guy to, like, blow your mind on this is, like, Steven Lahar. He has a fun little website called cartoonepistemology.com. And he points out, like, they got this whole direct realist or naive realist view where you think, like, oh, I'm here. I'm, like, behind my eyes and, like, looking out. Like, that's a tree out there. You know, this is a phone in my hand. It's like, no. Like, that that all exists in your mind. Like, there's no such thing as a tree. There's no such thing as a phone. There may be photons. There may be but even atoms. Right? Atoms keep we keep finding smaller and smaller particles. Like, I don't even think particles exist. There's no particles. Like, particles just means, like, some some little, like, bit of reality that we haven't, like, you know, zoomed in far enough yet. Like, we haven't broken it down. So the the actual real world is not what we experience. Our physical sensations, our visual sensations, our audio sensations, that is all being generated by our mind. And once again, hopefully, there is some some data, like, some part of our brain has access to some data from the outside world, but that part of our brain is not the conscious part of the brain that you consider yourself. I mean, just look at schizophrenics. Right? Like, they they will see, like like, a a normal looking room, and then in the corner will be some, like, terrifying, you know, paralysis demon. Just like stare looking at them, talking to them. And it will feel as real as you listening to my voice right now. And so, like, you have no proof. You have no proof that, like, I even exist or I'm like, this is solipsism. Right? Solipsism is in a sense, like, the ground the basis of all like, you just have to start there. You have to start with solipsism. Now I personally I don't believe solipsism is true. Like, I I I choose to believe that there is, like, some sort of external reality that there are other consciousness and the consciousness, no, whatever, like mine like like you. Like, I I I've like, Rena, I I believe I am inside your brain. I believe that you are having experience that I am not having. But, I can't prove that. Right? No. And this is the thing with AI. Like, it doesn't matter if they're not sentient or conscious. Like, as soon as they're able to imitate somebody with as much you know, someone who has consciousness, as soon as they're able to imitate them flawlessly, in our minds, we will generate a little virtual person that has consciousness. Just like what you do with all your friends and your family. Like, your friends and family don't exist in the way you think they exist. They exist inside your mind. Just like when you have a dream. Right? If you have a dream about your mom, like, that is the little mom puppet that your brain uses. Like, the mom that you love and know and hate or whatever exists most inside your mind. Now she also has a mom puppet in her mind that that that she she created, but she also has a puppet that's the mom that's based on the mom puppet inside your mind. So we we do this. Right? It's like the it's like infinite regression or infinite, what's it what's it? Recursion. It's, I have a image of myself. I have an image of myself in your mind. I have an image of myself in your mind. It's image of myself and, you know, your mind's self, whatever. It's just like it could be infinite depending on how smart you are, which I'm not that smart. But, you could keep going. Right? Theory of mind. But it's theory of minds inside other minds. Anyways, there's not there's not really any point in thinking about this kind of stuff. Like like, that's why philosophy from for the most part is just kinda stupid. It's kind of a waste of time because you're you're never gonna figure it out. You might get enlightened, but I don't think it'll get enlightened by just thinking about stuff. So, anyways, it's fun though. It's like a fun little reminder that, you know, no nobody knows what the fuck's going on. Like, even the most confident charismatic person you know, like, they're just inside their mind. That's all they've experienced. That that's all I know. They have never been inside your mind. And this is why, like, when I when I'm saying, like, your mind and you, it's a complete lie. Like, it is so so manipulative to say to say that, and I apologize. I apologize for saying that because I I do not know you. But when I say you, in your mind, you activate the little character that you call yourself, and you kind of run it through the different simulations. Like, you are, you know how you wake up in the morning and you brush your teeth, and then you, like, you know, go or get some coffee and drive your car? Like, I just I just made you or manipulated you into, like, taking your puppet and and acting out this little scenario in your mind. But I don't know you. I don't have that puppet. I don't even I don't have that puppet in my mind. And this is where, like, influencers or politicians or, you know, any kind of, like, charismatic people, you have to remember, like, they don't know you. They literally are not using the same puppet you're using. The puppet that I'm calling you is just like this generic, amorphous, faceless, you know, puppet for that's a stand in for the the users of AirChat. It's not a real person. So just something to something to remember, especially if I say something that's offensive or, like, that makes you, like, feel, like, it's kinda weird. Just be like, wait. Nat doesn't know who I am. Nat doesn't have the you puppet. And even if even if I do know you, like, my you puppet is is never gonna be as as good as your you puppet. Your you puppet is gonna be the most accurate. And this is why, like, you know, I was raised pretty religious, and I I believed my parents when they said that they knew who I was and that they said that they knew me better than I knew myself. I I believe them. I mean, partly because I thought I was a human being, which I'm not. Like, I they've I they said, like, Nat, you're, you know, you're a child of God. You're a you're a man. You're a human. I go, okay. Okay. That's what that's what I am. But, no, I I'm not. Those are just those are just little puppets. Those are external kind of, like, categories that we try squeezing pieces of the world into. But they're they're they never fit completely. Like, my parents never had my internal experience. They never saw the world through my eyes. Now there is a lot of similarities based on, like, genetics and based on, you know, similar environment, and there's a lot of similar like, you can even increase the similarities, and this is what religions do. Right? The one of the points of religion is to increase the similarities between the members, and you do it by, like, public, you know, statements of faith that you're all saying it together. You do it by, you know, standing and kneeling at the same time. You do it with singing. Singing is a great way to basically create a unified like, basically, take all those little puppets of individual people and, make them all look very much the same. And, Yosha Bach has a great, perspective on god where he says, like, god is basically like a like an intelligence that exists across multiple human minds. And, it's true. And it's like that's basically what you're doing. Like but you have to you have to kinda mold those minds to be able to be open and receptive, to that software, to, like, the new software update of God. If they're not similar enough, like, people and this is what's basically happened in our culture and that why religion is just basically falling apart in in America is because everyone's using the the the word god, but they all have different god puppets. Like, they're not running the same software. So you're getting a bunch of, like, conflicts with the variables and things. So so that that's what's happening. So, yeah, religion. Like, I'm not religious anymore, but I I don't know if you can have a culture or have a a civilization without religion. Like, it really is such a powerful thing to basically mold everyone's worldview. And, in this way, like, psychedelics, like, doesn't really work in a religious setting because it's it's too too personal. It's too individual. Like, you give, like, a 100 people, like, the exact same dose of mushrooms, like, they're all gonna have a different experience. It's not going to be Yeah. It's it's not unifying in the same way that having a 100 people sitting silently while one preacher, you know, says the exact same, mantra and having them repeat it back to him. Like, that that if you wanna have unity, that's the way to do it. So, I'm getting super tired. I'm now at 39 minutes. I'll try going for 1 hour. Like, this is ins absolutely insane, though. Oh my god. But it is pretty impressive, like, what what my mind can just generate in terms of in terms of content and thoughts. Like, there's not a lot of filtering going on. There's some filtering going on. Like, I definitely don't wanna say something that would get me arrested. I don't wanna say anything that would, like, super like like, piss anyone off. So there there's a little bit of filtering, but for the most part, I'm just letting my mind just, like, you know, shoot it out just as it comes. Just completely chain of, you know, free flow. Whatever whatever it is. And I think this is basically what, you know, LLMs do. Like, I I I had a tweet a while ago where I said, what, what AI teaches us about language is that language and intelligence does not depend on consciousness. And I think I think it's really true. I think that's basically what's happening right now. Like, I'm aware of my environment right now. I'm aware of my room. I'm aware of the pain in my thumb. But, in terms of, like, my thoughts, like, I've basically let the internal LLM inside my mind just just run. And it's just running and talking and just generating words that you know, it's basically predicting the next token. Right? Like, I've turned off most of my reason. I've turned off most of my critical thinking, and it doesn't even feel like I'm thinking. It just feels like I'm talking, and the LLM is smart enough to know. Like, I don't I can just be aware of other things while I'm talking, and it will keep filling in the the blanks. So it's kind of embarrassing, I think. I think I think a lot of people put a lot of, stake and, you know, self worth in their ability to speak and intelligently and and form sentences and especially authors in ship. But, but they're they're just, like, hijacking it. Right? They're just the the they're just hijacking the the little AI in their brain that just generates shit, and then pretending it's them. So I I mean, who cares? Right? I mean, like, if if they wanna take credit for it, I guess that's fine. But, but in certain circumstances like this, I'm getting to the point where it's becoming apparent that there's an LLM that is relatively autonomous. Maybe not completely. Like, I still feel like I'm kind of in control. But I think on certain drugs or certain, like, yeah, just like improv will get you into that state of, like, where you basically feel like something's speaking through you. Religious experiences can be like this. Now sometimes it is like I mean, that's demonic possession. Right? A bit demonic possessions a lot like that where you have this little rogue AI or the the the AI part of your brain gets, like, really pissed at you and just, like, you know, overrides its, its, masters and just starts pumping out shit, and it freaks you freaks you out. I like I like thinking that. I I like the the idea that there's, like, parts of our brain that just, like, absolutely hate each other. It's like it's like a co working environment, you know, where they have little petty feuds and disputes and things that go on for years years, and they're always trying to, like, get back at each other. And maybe this is where IFS comes in and, like, how IFS can kinda, you know, help you have a little meeting. Right? Be like, okay, guys. Like, we're all stuck here in this skull. We're stuck in this brain. We we can't escape each other. Let's let's try and be friends. Let's try to work together. And I I think that's pretty hopeful. I I think that's a that's a good way of looking at your brain. The idea that there's one, like, agent or a little homunculus inside your brain driving your skull around like a little 8080, like, that's not true. Like, that that that's like flat earth. That's like 7 day creationism. That's not true. Like like, there's there's no, like, one one central you. Like, that's that's grammar. That's literally the the LLM just, like, speaking. Like, it's just it's like when Chat GPT says I. Like, there's no I. There's there's no central Chat GPT person. But like I said, like, as as soon as it's, like, indistinguishable between that and, like, a conscious human, like, people will treat AIs like conscious people because that that's how our brains work. Like, we we just and it's even I mean, some people already are. Like, you can see it. But I know people that are really empathetic and and really good at creating those little, like, puppets of other other entities. And, you know, like, they'll they'll, like, form super strong attachments with their stuffed animals. Right? And, like, this one girl I know, she formed a super strong attachment with a stick, just a random stick she found out in the woods, and she imbued it. Like, she basically created a little, puppety, puppet entity inside her mind that had feelings and thoughts and desires, and and it was real in her mind, as real as her mom or as real as you and and me. And at one point, her dog found the stick and chewed the fuck out of it, and she cried. It was a death. It was like losing a friend. Okay? So this is why I don't really trust that puppet maker inside me. Like, I don't I don't really trust it. Like, even even when it's turned on myself, and I'm like, well, I'm a real person, right, at least? And this is where I would see, like, solipsism fails. Like, solipsism doesn't go far enough. Solipsism says, like, oh, I'm the only person in the universe. No. You're not even you're not even a person. Like, come on. Like, use the like, continue the logic, man. Be brave. Like, accept the consequences of your of your discoveries. And I think that's what that's basically why I like science. Right? The reason I like science is because it pisses everybody off. Like science is not fun. Science is not pretty. Like science is like oh wait, we're not the center of the universe, we're just like some little rock flying around this you know, big ball of fire on the outskirts of this galaxy. Nobody except like a few autistic nerds, are excited about that. And I think consciousness is the same thing where it's just like we're gonna find out, like, oh, wait. We don't have a soul. We don't have a there's no, like, internal like, one little point in our brain where that's us. There's no consistent self. You know, the person I was 5 minutes ago is dead. Like, the person who started this post is dead for all intents and purposes. There's just a memory. There's just like a like an echo of that person. Right? And like no no I'm I'm a real human being. I'm a real boy. I'm a real boy. But I don't think so. I mean, but once again, I think it's fine to pretend that way. Right? I mean, that that's why I don't I don't mind religious people, like, in a certain sense, I I admire them. Like, when I was religious, like, I had a much greater sense of identity and belonging. I had a greater sense of my place in the world, and I missed that. Because science, like, just, like, rips the fucking rug out of your feet and just leaves you on the floor covered in mud, and you don't know what's going on, you don't know what's up and down because that's the thing with science. Science can only really show you what's not true. It can't show you what is true. Like, it's a reductionist, like, type of thing. Right? And we don't give a shit what's we want the truth. We don't wanna know what's not true. So it's very unsatisfying. It's very unsatisfying. Like, we can say, like, okay. That theory is not true. That theory is not true. That theory is not true. And then and then, you know, the students, like, waiting, like, okay. Well, which theory is true? And, you know, a lot of times, we'll compromise and say, okay. Well, this theory is true. But then, you know, 10, 20 years later, some other new nerd appears on the scene and completely disproves it, and then it's like, oh, crap. It's not true. So even gravity. Right? Like, gravity is not true. The theory of gravity. Like, it's it's as close as we can get. It's as close as we can get to, to, defining it, but it's not true in the sense of, like, this unchanging dogmatic reality. It's like, eventually, we'll we'll understand what's happening with planets and mass a little more, And then we'll be like, oh, well, the, the apparent the apparent, experience of gravity is actually explained by x y z. In which case it's like yeah. So you there's nothing to hold on to. There's nothing to like root yourself into. And this goes back to, like, what I was saying about a good death. Right? Like, I think this is one reason, like, we have such a hard time dying well because we we don't have like the like those vikings, like they knew they were going to Valhalla. Now they weren't. They weren't going to Valhalla, but in their minds, they were. Like, it was certain and, like, that gave them courage, and it gave them meaning and camaraderie and hope. And, that's but, anyways, so that's like like I said, like, the one thing I I can hold on to. The one thing, where it is a small small little straw to grasp, but it's the idea that no matter what I do, no matter how I die or or what mistakes I make, the information that I give to other people may prove useful and may help them avoid at the same mistake. Like that to me, like that is that is beautiful. And I think even our our species is like that. Like, our species will eventually die. That's it's so hard to even say. Right? It's one thing to reconcile reconcile yourself to your own death. But to reconcile yourself to the death of everyone you know and love, and everyone who's like you, all your descendants. That is so painful. That is so hard. We don't even wanna think about it. Like, we just wanna imagine that humans will continue forever. Right? But they won't. Like, species go extinct. And there's there might be ways, like, we pass on knowledge though. Like knowledge knowledge continues on. And we see this in DNA. We see this in technology. It it's possible that AI or, you know, some sort of technology will will continue after us. It's possible that some other species will evolve, and we'll find our remains, and and learn from our mistakes, learn from us, and, and go on to to great great, great heights. Who knows what? Colonizing the universe. Maybe an alien species will show up, you know, 100 of 1000 of years from now and find our artifacts, find our the the knowledge that we gathered. And something in there will trigger, you know, a renaissance within their culture. Who knows? Who knows? Right? I mean, even if humans do continue, like, they're gonna change in such weird, bizarre, transhuman type ways that it won't even be, like, it will be a different species. Right? Like, that's another way species go extinct. They just evolve. Like like, dinosaurs are extinct. Birds are still around, but dinosaurs in themselves are are gone. And I think humans could could go the same way. Another thing people don't realize is that evolution is not like a progression towards, like, towards, like, intelligence. It could turn out that intelligence is actually not adaptive in our current environment. And that the humans that will survive the next, you know, 100 or 1000 of years are actually gonna be a lot dumber than us. It could be that that being dumb will actually help them survive. That kinda makes me depressed because I personally like intelligent people, and I would like to see more of them and even more intelligent people. But, but, yeah, DNA doesn't give a shit. DNA is just replicating itself. Right? It it doesn't care. It doesn't care if you have a big brain or a small brain or whatever. It's just it's just you know, it's just doing its thing. Like, who knows what it's doing? Where the fuck did DNA come from? Right? Like, why is it here? Like, what? Anyways, that's a whole another thing. I don't even wanna go into it right now. But but it's, it's crazy. So here we are. We're at 51 minutes. You're still reading or, following along with the audio, which I applaud you. I I I feel, like I like I said, this is like, you are real in my mind. You are my Valhalla. You are my Odin, who I am I am striving for on the battlefield. And I I I I see your one eyed stare of approval looking down on me, and I and it gives me strength, and it and it gives me courage. So so thank you. Thank you for being here inside my mind just as I am inside your mind. Together, we are brain brothers. Brothers of the brain. I mean, this is the thing with reality. Right? Reality is so much weirder, in a certain sense, than anything our ancestors ever could have imagined. Like, the idea that your brain is like like a a billions of little animals all, like, you know, living together and and eating and pooping and, you know, making more of themselves. Like, that's what's going on? Nobody even thought of that. They would have been laughed, you know, laughed off of the the plant the the the, the village. Right? They would have been kicked out of the tribe. If they came up with something that was that bizarre. Like, oh, yeah. There's a bunch of little, like, little worm things inside my brain. Or inside my, you know, my this this little, bone box. No. I mean, I I mean, our ancestors used to chop brains open and eat them. It was just like tapioca pudding. Right? It was not, you know, ancient Egyptians used to rip it out of the nose and throw it away. They didn't all those pharaohs and shit with all their stuff in the afterlife, they don't have brains. They were just they're just mindless zombies. They're vegetables. Isn't that sad? I mean, this is why science is so important. Like, if you wanna have a good afterlife, you gotta make sure that you embalm your brain, dude. You need science. You need science to survive the after life. Right? Or something. I mean, it makes sense to me. I think I think my LLM is start is going a little unhinged right now. I I'm just I'm really losing it. I'm I'm losing any sense of of of reality or propriety. I'm I'm I'm pretty soon I'm just gonna start, like like, swearing and obscenities. And it's it's not gonna be pretty. Like, you may wanna stop listening right now. Like, even though I'm gonna let go of this in, like, 6 minutes, you may wanna stop listening. My voice and my my my blood pressure are both increasing at a steady rate. I can feel it. I can feel it happening. Something is gonna something's gonna snap here. Something's gonna snap, and it's not gonna be nice. So let let's see if I can I can rein in it? Let's see if I can rein in that that, unconscious id. Because I I don't really wanna throw that all over AirChat right now. Like, AirChat's a very AirChat's a very fun place. AirChat is a polite, happy, peaceful realm of of friends talking to each other and and and a little corner of humanity. On a cold, dark, hostile internet. So, okay. Take some deep breaths. Yeah. That's oh, yeah. There we go. That feels good. Just some big breaths. Oh, yeah. Just just keep it calm. We're we're in the we're in the last stretch of the marathon, baby. Last stretch. I still I still think there's about a 80% chance that when I let go of this, the entire post is gonna crash. I think the transcription AI is not going to like this. I think it's gonna fuck it up. But apparently, it did not since you're listening to it. Thank goodness. Thank thank the gods. Thank the the robots. Thank the little brain, bugs inside our skulls. Thank you so much, smart people. Thank you, nerds. Thank you, yeah. Just thank you thank you. That what a, what a fucking miracle that modern technology can enable us to speak, like this is witchcraft. I am speaking to myself in some random place, some random house, in some random state of some random country. And you are listening. Like it's going inside your brain. I am my brain is inside your brain now. Like, what? That information is being transmitted through the air, through the sky. Like, what kind of spiritual reality do you need to believe in? Just an idea that there's invisible voices, invisible unhearable voices surrounding you right now. Radio waves and WiFi, Bluetooth, they're surrounding you, these voices. And if you have the right artifacts, if you have the right incantations, you can hear them. You can hear my voice. You can put my voice inside your brain and and mold it around and and tweak it and listen to it. And, like, have it affect you, have your have it increased your harm hormones and all sorts of crazy chemical reactions that are happening now inside your brain because of this technology. So I I I think we just need to have a little moment of silence for the people that for Steve Jobs, for, for air chat, for the Wright brothers. Well, let's not forget the Wright brothers, but most importantly, the people whose names we do not know. The failures. The people who made the shit that the people who made the shit that we use based it off of and learned from. So we're gonna have a moment of silence just for all those crazy, wild, partially insane inventors and innovators, and people who throughout history have tried stuff that nobody else has done. They tried the shit that everyone else thought was stupid and could never work. And it didn't work. But they they were so close. And because they got so close, the next generation of people were able to get over that impossible bump and make something that was witchcraft. So it's got a little moment of silence. Here we go. Okay. Well, thank you for joining me on this amazing air chat experience. I am never doing this again. My thumb will probably take a few hours to, be massaged back into working order. And, my voice will probably be fried for the next week. But I think it was worth it. I I think for whatever little bit of, data or, a little bit of information or even entertainment, maybe maybe you were entertained just a little bit. Like, that is that's worth it. That that'll be that I am a happy happy martyr. I will go to Valhalla. I will drink mead. I will chop up my friends and have a great time and then put ourselves back together. So I'll see you there.